We have 54 diamonds and up in north America and thousands globally. Show the plan..show the plan , show the plan. MLM: There ain't no light at the end of the tunnel! Anonymous - its the old saying nothing in life is free. Hell Ive never even had a call from a bill collector. Ive never been one to like amway, for the most part I do think its annoying but theres no denying thr fact that most of my family that came from a 3rd world country and were piss poor came up with this business with years of hard work and effort. He just found me on Facebook a few months ago, he quit Amway about a year later, never did make any money at it. Suckers. They buy mansions a fleet of sports cars and fly first class to exotic destinations multiple trips a year and supposedly they pay cash for all of this. One thing I noticed, at least in one of the organizations, is that almost all the newer diamonds were also already independently wealthy. Add to that the demand that IBOs buy all the damn "tools," and those bigshots made a fortune.They told De Vos and Van Andel to go to hell. Those who earn an invitation will participate in fabulous, once-in-a-lifetime activities, new product offerings, and networking opportunities. The glimmer of hope still exists. You're going to earn the $84, you're not going to retire in 2-5 years. You're basically on point with what you've said. Please check your. After all, less than 1 percent of Amway distributors go Diamond. I was so enamored with their houses and cars, but also how incredibly douchey and pathetic they all looked. The thing is Ambots are leaving Amway and taking their downline with them. Not bad money, but the sales organizations sell a mammoth sized lie. So you may tout them as "investing" in their business, but with a real investment there has to be an eventual return. Indeed they do get speaking fees. Customer Service Once Ambots are brainwashed they don't care about their friends or family anymore except for how much money then can make off them.So your friend said to you - I know a really sharp businessman who has some great ideas. Yes, a Diamond who follows the instructions, which includes having 10 RETAIL customers every month and builds that ethic into their downline could make $150 K per year. Well, if it's so great, what the hell are you waiting for? The amount of people each Ambot would have to have under them is prohibitively large to make any profit at all. It's like this, 5 seagulls are on a dock and one decides to fly away, How many seagulls are left?5. Let's assume that he paid taxes (maybe he didn't since he's here illegally). And if I were you I wouldn't go around mentioning you know Amway losers because people are going to think you're a fucking Amway loser too. But you are expected to dump a poopload of money into motivational tools (books and tapes) and atten some very expensive functions. You cannot just dismiss the thousands of people who voice their grief with this business. %??? Your wasting your time while other people are making their dreams come true. Or as you put it there's a lying sack of shit born every minute. Amway is very different. Folding your cards does not entail 'losing' or 'quitting'. If hate bothers you that much then stay away from Amway the biggest hate mongers out there. Price matching . Amway and Scientology, Apart From the Labels, What's the Difference? As with any business you need to keep producing turn over, else you lose it. Its a system designed for failure. So i just dont see why anyone would bother. At least we sleep at normal nighttime hours and not up at the wee hours of the morning trying to figure out how much money diamonds make. Hold on Darnell, are you saying that your parent company doesn't provide full income disclosure of diamonds? They were probably shocked as well. We always had to write our checks out payable to cash so the Diamonds could avoid paying taxes on it. Realists always face reality. Usually they're screeching this stuff everywhere they can!And why aren't you already retired? The diamonds I know built a house on their property for their parents. Despite the overwhelming evidence presented here and elsewhere that profits from the "tools" business far exceed that from the sale of Amway products, most Amway distributors have continued to insist that little or no profit is made from the sale of tapes and rally tickets. Do you really want to cancel your registration? Thats to Amway and other MLM business, common people can take part of the billion dollar industry of distribution. Posting bullshit Amway propaganda. Hi Anonymous. The business is an opportunity, not a hand out. Only a handful of Diamonds have kept their status and they have to keep working and speaking. Will all find they're way no matter the vehicle. Well get to you eventually and approve it as long as it really isnt spam. Shocking! Do you bitch about how restaurants are scams? Nothing about it is a scam. This product item already exists in the list. Doesn't speak volumes that the cult would as you to forsake someone you love to remain in the cult? Scam! You actually tell them what you want to talk to them about and show them some videos online before having them over. I have an excellent credit rating but those fucking Amway assholes that read my blog accuse me of being broke. I love my freedom to spend with my family. It may only be shared or re-used under licence. Your post highlights the problems with doing maths based on poor knowledge or false assumptions. The point of this blog is to show that Amway is NOT a solution, it's a money-losing cult that MAKES problems for people, not solve them. Posting something that serves no purpose other than to cause fighting.7. Now, I personally find it a little farfetched to believe that these Diamonds, having been "angered" by Amway, could have investigated and evaluated all the opportunities out there and decided in the space of only a few days to join Mona Vie. I know we did.Why do Amway ambots keep accusing me of having a job? A few years passed and I had started my own business - something that actually created value in this world, when I ran into those sponsors. (@)(@)(@)(@) zooom zoom zoom!!!! You had to listen to their bullshit propaganda. Funny. I have the biggest Amway losers showing up here to bitch about this blog all the while proclaiming they're Christians. Yeah right. I get from the blog description that you are married to an Amway IBO,the question is are you still married to him despite the fact you hate what he is doing that much , I read your blogs and i cant seem to understand why are you hating that Amway cooperation that much , did they like rip you off and didn't give you what you paid for or was your husband so busy in it and did not give you much time , please elaborate more . They made no mention of her former life as an Amway Diamond. He is no longer involved in lying and scamming people. Great friend.yes u can make it happen also.great work.great idea.great dream.great lifestyle.see u on top.n peace. They figure once they get the sucker there and get them in front of their Amway cult leader they'll want to sign up so they can spend more time with that bastard. Who should we believe? (a) no, nothing like 1500000, you dont understand correctly (b) yes its hard work, if you can suggest a job or other casual business that allows you to bring in around $50000/yr in profit, part-time, within a coule of years, while simultaneously creating an income producing asset, then please share. After all, as we speak, IBOs in your team are leaving and you have to replace them, otherwise you'll drop out of qualification! Christ says "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to get into heaven." but did you act upon them? Naming names? After a half hour of talking to him I feel like I already wasted a big chunk of my life I will never get back. . I can feel it!". Isn't there someone in your Amway upline who wants you to suck his dick off so go run off and find him cocksucker! There may be lies that you can work for a few years and retire. In a strange way the woman speaker is so wacko Amway no brain that I keep listening in disgust. And expectations are more realistic. It's one thing to say show the plan and its another thing to actually find a sucker willing to take a look at it. Network21? To warn everyone what people in Amway are really like. Over on Amway Wiki a number of diligent editors have been creating information pages about the many, many people around the world who have qualified at the Amway Diamond level or higher.I've now added an extension to the Wiki which allows us to easily list these pages and so far we have information (at least the names!) If you leave a comment written in another language then we either have to use Google translate to put it into English so everyone can understand what you wrote or we can hit the Delete button. We know some, but not many. If this guy you met worked in timeshare sales he'd be doing really good wouldn't he!He probably spoke to you about how people who have jobs are stupid. The only way to make money in Amway is selling tools like that book. To my surprise they never talked about Amway in this coffee meeting and had proposed what we thought was a legitimate partnership with another business that they started. Hope you all have much success in life. Nobody wants Amway's overpriced soap or shampoo. Maybe you have a decent downline that hasn't seen the light either. Diamond Select: February 1-3, 2023. Depends how long she's been inside the cult. Those XS come in a case depending on the flavor costs $30 or $40, so close to $5 a can. But to hell with all that. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Have you heard about that. Enjoy laid-back luxury on Oahus sunny western coast in Ko Olina. Depending how old they are they might not ever be able to bounce back from the Amway hell hole. Like we havent heard that Amspeak abuse from the assholes in our upline!If your comment didnt get published it could be one of these reasons:1. Her son won for her $77,400 on ABC's You Deserve It. Anonymous - I'm sorry to hear you're falling for a women inside the Amway cult. So net its a small income. I've been recently talked to by my friend about this "be your own boss" type of thing. An Ambot will never come back to clarify their "math". You do all the work, make a few pennies commission on a sale, and everyone in your upline also makes commission off your hard work. Speak to who introduced you to Amway! Yes, it's the same fucking plan, that Bob, Steve, Al, and Jim have done the last several nights in a row. Congratulations!!!!!!!!!! Aren't you the same guy who was here a year ago with a girlfriend ambot? But from the sound of your post you are still stuck working for someone who you have to answer to. We talk about the meetings, rallies, and functions we attended and then you show up here like a dumb fuck and say I don't know if you've ever heard of WWDB. Either way you are claiming that your parent company has not provided proper information to a governing body, and, based on how you say "we're not supposed to", this is a taught practice within your organization, going up and down your line. And don't get me started on those multiple weekly meetings where you hear the exact same thing you heard at the meeting before and the one before that and so on..And the abuse you took after you quit is the same abuse everyone else gets too. Love that brainwashing. Osuwariboy - he's being a bad little Ambot isn't he. That's where the money is and the profits are only divided among a small group at the top of the scheme. Yes I'm a failure at lying, cheating, scamming people out of their money, brainwashing them, bitching at them to come to cult meetings and to buy overpriced shitty products. And that is how the elite make the money. They're prudes so if you curse them out they'll stay away from you. A nice racket, isn't it?Any white guy with an Afro must really be weird. In the late 1980s I frequently attended Amway rallies to help out a friend (bringing potential recruits to these rallies made my friend look good to his upstream). amway bissnes is Wondurful&Amazing bissness.Plez do it with confidantly. So, if you figure if Amway did half the revenue of Alticor, that would only financially support 361 diamondships (worldwide). Good bye biatch. PLEASE EXPLAIN ME THE ROYALTY INCOME OF 4% AND 10%, AND HOW IT COMES AND WILLABLE TO FUTURE FAMILY, PLZ ANY ONE WHO IS GETTING THIS EXPLAIN OR MAIL ME IT IN DETAIL. (And, as ibofightback mentioned, there is overlap. He's not totally sold on it either. The "prosperity Gospel" is a truly sick idea, and completely alien to genuine Christianity. They invited me to a "marketing" conference, and told me some very successful "entrepreneurs" would be speaking. 1500000 if i understand correctly. If Amway is such a great opportunity, why don't Amway distributors prospect people by saying "I am involved in Amway would you like to go with me to an Amway meeting"? Hi Anonymous.Guess they couldn't afford a coffee at McDonalds! LOL. But on this note, why don't you get a look at this website, it breaks up a diamond's revenue better than I ever could:http://www.cocs.com/jhoagland/tools.html. According to your figures? Furthermore, in 2009 Amway held celebrations of their 50th Anniversary and invited all qualified Diamonds and above to Las Vegas. you haven't lost hope. No. I definitely agree 100% with Alan. I have a friend that's with Amway. How Does A Ponzi Scheme Lure So Many Victims? Yup the life of an Amway Ambot is to lie, deny, distract, defend, and then disappear.Though maybe that was Theo who popped in last week. FUCK OFF Amway asshole! Only 3 or 4% of Amway's customers are not registered IBO's. Tobbi - you are probably right. You got to spend $30 to buy a box of them. It always amazed me how in the world can these so called "Diamonds" or "Emeralds" have so much money, yet need to have another job at least? But when the diamond falls out of qualification fees dry up.